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Typology and Descriptive Linguistics / Re: Compound Noun Detection
« Last post by Daniel on April 01, 2022, 12:35:48 PM »
Practical answer: a list might work to identify (some) compound nouns, but I don't know of one to suggest.

But a list would not include all compound nouns because we can productively create them through usage, such as "noun list".

Theoretically, there's also a question about how to define compound nouns: are these two nouns in a row in text? What about one-word compounds (e.g. "birdhouse")? Yes, you might need a list for those, but it would be tricky because some people might make up new ones (like "nounlist") spontaneously, but a list should cover at least the most common ones written as one word. That, plus a list of nouns (or just part of speech tagging) that would identify two nouns in a row would find a lot more. (And hyphenated compounds.) But however you approach this you might have some false positives and false negatives. Morphologists don't have an exact definition of "compound noun" that would always work perfectly, especially for automatic text processing. The best you can do, if you want an "easy" (and practical) answer, is to choose relatively simple criteria that will catch most cases. Or you can use a list, but I don't see how much insight that would give unless it is a very comprehensive list.
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Typology and Descriptive Linguistics / Compound Noun Detection
« Last post by bballboy8 on April 01, 2022, 10:57:27 AM »
Hey everyone!

I work doing natural language processing in machine learning and I need to be able to detect compound nouns in text. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find a comprehensive list online. Would such a list exist and if so, where would I find it? If not, is there some way to systematically detect compound nouns in text?
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Outside of the box / Re: Croatian toponyms
« Last post by Daniel on March 30, 2022, 07:29:15 AM »
Statistics are consistently used in linguistics when working with a representative sample. Etymology is not generally thought of in this way, because individual words are historical accidents, not representative samples (there's just one data point), so we can't reliably generalize. Statistics are used more generally to compare languages, e.g. to see if they are related (where the sample is many words, not just one), but even then it still is controversial and unclear to what degree such an approach (e.g. a "big data" method) works better than the traditional work "by hand" by experts looking at details of etymology and intuitive plausibility of connections, etc.

A p-value is not a desirable thing in science, nor required for the "scientific method". It's just one tool available to scientists, which can be used when appropriate. By the way, a p-value should not be "between 1/300 and 1/17". It should have a precise value, which is either higher or lower than the arbitrarily-selected cutoff point. So you might select .05 as the cutoff, and if your p-value is less than that, you consider the result to be significant (i.e. unlikely to observe that distribution by chance), and you report simply "p-value less than .05". You can also include other kinds of statistics, such as a confidence interval (that's what "between 1/300 and 1/17" sounds like), but that's something else. Regardless, there has been a huge amount of discussion recently about the general unreliability of p-values in research, i.e. researchers saying "this result is statistically significant", because although the numbers are objectively calculated, the methodology for gathering the data and deciding what it represents is not. Replicability is a neglected area of science, and in general a number of recent papers have found something along the lines of "most published conclusions are wrong", specifically in the case of experiments trying to make statistical generalizations.

In short, dismissing traditional insights into the field while hiding your methodology behind a shiny "p-value" isn't going to make it any more correct. It all boils down to the methodology, and whether your assumptions and interpretations of the data are correct.

"Big data" approaches to historical linguistics run into this problem: the idea is that if you feed enough data into a computer, eventually the calculated result will be meaningful. But it turns out that the assumptions build into the models, and lack of respect for traditional understanding of how these things works, simply leads to unreliable results. Here's a great Youtube video of a lecture about that: https://youtu.be/4jHsy4xeuoQ

Innovation in science is crucial. But only when it's actually an improvement, and generally after building on a solid foundation of existing methods.
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Outside of the box / Re: Croatian toponyms
« Last post by FlatAssembler on March 30, 2022, 03:35:55 AM »
Quote from: panini
An "established methodology" should be used until it is proven that an alternative methodology gives better results.
Mainstream methodology in toponymy gives no p-values (which is what is meant by "evidence" in hard sciences). My methodology gives some p-values (in the case described in my text about the river name Karašica, the p-value is somewhere between 1/300 and 1/17, depending on the assumptions you make about the collision entropy of the Croatian language). Therefore, my methodology gives results that somebody who follows the scientific method would prefer.
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Language Acquisition / Re: Deutsche verben transitiv/intransitiv
« Last post by Daniel on March 29, 2022, 02:44:03 PM »
Hello and welcome.

I'm not sure about a list specifically (although there might be one in a normative reference, such as one of the Duden works).

But two relevant terms for this are "ambitransitive" (clearer but I think less common) and "labile (verbs)" (more traditional):
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/labile_verb

Those terms are used at least for English, so searching for some translations in German might give you some useful results.

Note that there is also a question about argument structure, e.g. "I eat" vs. "I eat food", but "I broke the window" and "the window broke" (but not "I broke" with the same meaning). The second type have been called "middle voice" for English, and some other languages have morphology to derive that meaning, e.g. along the lines of "the window broke itself".


(Note that you are welcome to post here in German or any language you prefer, but more users will be able to reply in English.)
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Language Acquisition / Deutsche verben transitiv/intransitiv
« Last post by Laura on March 29, 2022, 12:59:01 PM »
Hi everybody,
Ich suche nach Verbenliste die sowohl transitiv als auch intransitive verben erscheinen. Z.B. die Suppe kocht, er kocht die Suppe.wo koennte ich liste mit solchen verben finden?

Danke im Voraus.
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Linguist's Lounge / Re: Getting Started in Studying Linguistics Academically.
« Last post by panini on March 28, 2022, 08:28:16 AM »
IMO, the most efficient way to proceed is to flesh out your feelings. You say that at the moment you are interested in language acquisition, pragmatics and semantics. Why not Indo-European reconstruction, sociolinguistics, phonology or computational linguistics? What defines or creates your interest of the moment, or an intermediate range? Just because you're not ready to commit to a life of Montague semantic accounts of time expressions doesn't mean that you can't identify a goal. I assume that there is some connection between "interest" and "goal", hence my question – what is it about semantics that you find interesting? Perhaps your interest is in mathematics and formal theories, so that defines one approach to semantics. But perhaps your interest is in cognition and everyday reasoning, then that suggests another approach to semantics. You can't drink from the fire hose of semantics, you have to focus on something that's practical to swallow – an article or two.

Rather that selecting "most current" work in an area, I would suggest looking at best work in an area. The primary division is, I suppose, between Dowty, Lakoff and Ramchand (or analogous representatives).


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Linguist's Lounge / Re: Which language would be the best lingua franca?
« Last post by Forbes on March 27, 2022, 07:22:10 AM »
On the whole, a lingua franca emerges rather than being imposed. There may be compelling reasons for it to emerge, but the basic point is that it arises because people put the need to communicate above other considerations.

I cannot agree that English, or for that matter any language, is "very abstract and inaccurate".  I do not see how any language can be abstract if by that is meant "only deals in, or reduces everything to, abstractions". "Inaccurate" suggests you cannot say what you want to. What does happen though is that languages differ in what they are specific about. If your language requires you to express something it is understandable to think it is necessary to express it and to find any language which does not express it defective. All languages are though capable of expressing what their speakers want and need to say - out of the ordinary experiences possibly excepted. All round the world there are large cities with complex infrastructures and high rise buildings which would not be there if the people who made them could not communicate with the "accuracy" needed. Accordingly, as has been said, any language has the potential to become a lingua franca.

No conlang is suitable for a lingua franca because, as Daniel suggests, they are not a product of human interaction. Apart from that, no one will ever construct one which pleases everyone. Those which are supposed to be "logical" and "consistent" may be fine intellectual achievements, but fail because no known natural language is logical or consistent and the world as humans experience it and need to speak about it is not neatly pigeonholed.
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Linguist's Lounge / Re: Which language would be the best lingua franca?
« Last post by waive15 on March 27, 2022, 04:04:10 AM »

lingua franca
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lingua_franca

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etymonline (dot) com

lingua franca

Feringhee

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The Big Bang Theory Leslie and Leonard break up -TR ALTYAZI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxNL6fAJYB0
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Linguist's Lounge / Re: Getting Started in Studying Linguistics Academically.
« Last post by Daniel on March 26, 2022, 08:37:40 PM »
I wish that undergraduates were taught more about research, and had more experience doing research. Panini is right about some misconceptions in your post, but from what you wrote my guess is that those are due to what you have-- of more precisely have not-- been taught. It's good that you're asking about this.

There are many different points we could discuss, so I'll just try to outline a few.

First, Linguistics grad students often have diverse backgrounds, not necessarily undergrad experience in Linguistics. So that's not necessarily a problem. Anything you can do now to set yourself apart is good. Maybe just looking into research on your own. Maybe looking for a summer school (often a two-week program somewhere) for Linguistics (check LinguistList for announcements: they've been posted recently for many places). Or maybe some relevant life experience such as joining the Peace Corps and teaching/learning language(s) along the way. None of those are required, and there are other things you could do too, but having something to set yourself apart in the admissions process would help. Grad program admissions are getting more and more competitive, and while there are no strict requirements, there will be some students applying who do have a strong background in Linguistics and even have published research. (And other students will have uniquely qualifying backgrounds, like international students who can teach a language that is needed on campus and who bring a relevant, different perspective to the program.) So look into programs that might interest you (and look for one that is a good fit, not just the one that is the "best" on paper-- the best fit for you personally is going to be most likely to accept you as well), and see what requirements there are, and what you can do. You can contact the programs too.

Regarding research, I've heard the generic advice of "check Jstor" too often. Now, Jstor is useful. But it's useful because it gathers so many journals together, and many universities have access to it. But it actually is not very useful for the newest research, specifically because the strongest coverage in Jstor is older materials, and even for current journals, there's often a 1-4 year delay before new issues are posted there. It's also not a very useful search engine. Google Scholar can be helpful if you use it well,* but it won't magically give you all of the most relevant information if you don't know what to look for.

As a general introduction to the field, I would recommend two things, both of which can be done (mostly) online:
1. Subscribe to (or just browse) LinguistList.org which is the general source of information and notifications for linguists. It's widely used, and just about everything you would need is posted there, such as jobs. But for you right now, the most important thing is that almost all new publications, including both books and journal issues, are posted there with tables of contents to browse through. The best way to know what's going on in the field really is to browse through what's being published right now. No need to read all of the articles, of course, but browse until you find something interesting, and then see if you can read it. Many preprints (basically drafts) are posted by the author on their website or elsewhere as open access, and some journals are open access today. Otherwise, you usually can visit a nearby university library to get online access to many online sources that way, but that would mean making a trip there (and check the access policies, especially given the pandemic, but usually at least some school near you will have public access one way or another).
2. Attend a conference! You can just sit in the audience and listen to the talks. Sometimes there's a small (or maybe large) fee, but it might be waived or reduced for students (and usually I think you'd count as a student, i.e. as a prospective student, rather than in the same category as a professional or faculty member). And some are free. There are many conferences, probably a surprising number even locally around you, and you can find something that interests you. For language acquisition there are at least a few dozen each year (internationally). These are all posted on LinguistList, so take a look and find something that interests you. But right now especially it's even more convenient, because, given the pandemic, many conferences are online so you can attend from anywhere. Don't feel out of place because you're just beginning: that's a great reason to attend a conference, not one you should feel shy about. You learn a lot from listening, and you'll find what excites you, and what bores you. That's good. You'll know what to focus on in your own research. You might also meet some people who can give you advice (although that's harder, but not impossible, in an online context). But if you're still not sure about that, you could also revisit some previous online conferences, where the videos have been posted to Youtube, for example. There have been many, many conferences like that over the last couple years during the pandemic. I'll let you search online to see what interests you the most, although for a very general series of accessible talks, you might check out these, all available on Youtube, from the Brazilian Linguistics Association (mostly in English, but a few in Portuguese, Spanish or other languages): https://aovivo.abralin.org/lives/

*Regarding how to use Google Scholar and other databases to find references, it's tricky if you don't know where to start. Part of becoming a competent researcher is learning the relevant terminology for your specialization, and that can take years to fully work out. So just start with things that interest you, and start to do searches related to those topics and keywords. Wikipedia could be a good place to start, just to get some general ideas, then look at the references cited there to see what is relevant. A really good trick is to find an older, general reference that's been cited by many people since, and then look for that as a "reverse search" on Google Scholar using the "cited by" option: then you'll see who has been doing research in recent years related to, e.g. Lenneberg's classical ideas about the "critical period" in language learning (a popular but controversial topic regarding age effects), just as one of many, many examples. Next, you can find a current paper, and then look at its reference list, and then go back to another classical paper that way, and continue in that back-and-forth pattern until you find what interests you. It takes some work, and some practice, but it's really the only way to get deep into the best references for a topic. The other approach, hinted above, is to just look at current research (e.g. latest journal articles) and then start trying to decipher those. That's going to be difficult/advanced because they're not meant as teaching materials but as cutting-edge research, but if you follow the same process of reading some of the central references, you might be able to teach yourself that way, if you're the kind of person who likes to be an independent self-taught learner. One word of caution: don't assume that the most popular references are necessarily the best. Look for yourself. But if something has been cited by a lot of others, it's probably worth knowing what it is.

Something else you might try on your own would be online classes in Linguistics, if you want to approach it that way. There are limited options, but you'll find some open access course materials (at MIT, for example, among other places) you could browse through. I also recently found this, which I haven't tried myself, but did look interesting: https://oer-vlc.de/
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