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Offline OnAQuest

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The way the GVS does not affect much of my speech...
« on: January 11, 2018, 01:41:51 AM »
Or at least not in the way standard american or british is,when I speak english I more or less use the vowels like they are used in french and italian or better in Standard Danish,most if not everyone understands me perfectly when I speak a language they understand ,when I speak French ,Dutch,Danish and Italian I use the same exact vowels as I do in English and native speakers from all understand me perfectly ...some even say how clear I speak and from this i find that against to what many linguists say the only vowel sound that really moved in english are ''i'' and ''ou'' along with with ''u''also I find my tongue moves not at all,it is all about where I am aiming the sound in my head and vowels are not ordered in a quadrilateral but rather one after the other in a line ,I also sing and I am saying this cause I clearly have a way of doing it that not many do ,where I aim the vowels sounds rather than shape them with my tongue which makes singing a breeze rather than a constant fight with the muscles in my mouth ,I always remember singing and speaking like this and when I recently tried any other(just cause I thought what the heck) way I would have my neck throbbing after singing , my singing sounded like a dying walrus with a spoon stuck in it's throat,  but i wanna know if anyone out there feels they have a similar way or maybe a different way than what linguists seem to say ...


How many linguists say Standard American English Vowels are:


bight [aɪ]
beet [iː]
bit [ɪ]
bate [eɪ]
bet [ɛ]
bat [æ]
bot [ɑ]
bout [aʊ]
bought [ɔ]
but [ʌ]
burt [ɜ˞]
boat [oʊ]
boot
beaut [ɪ̯u]
bute [ɪ̯u]
sew [oʊ]
boy [ɔɪ]
choir [ʊ̯ɑ] 
you [ɪ̯u]
yacht [ɪɑ]


How general American speakers seem to say the vowels(compared to the way I say them):

bight [aɪ̯]/[æɪ̯]
beet [ɨː]/[eː]
bit [ɪ]
bate [eɪ̯]
bet [e̞]/[ɛ]
bat [æ]/[ɛə]/[eə]/[ɘə]
bot [ä]
bout [äʊ̯]/[aʊ̯]/[æʊ̯]
bought [ɒ]
but [ə]/[ɜ]/[ʌ]
burt [ɚ]/[ɜ˞]
boat [oʊ̯]
boot /[ʊu̯]
beaut [ɪ̯ʉu̯]
bute [ɪ̯ʉu̯]
sew [oʊ̯]/[əʊ̯]
boy[oɪ]/[ɔɪ]
choir [ʊ̯ɑ]/[ʊä] 
you [ɪ̯ʉu̯]
yacht [ɪ̯a]/[ɪɑ]/[ɪɒ]

How I say the vowels:

bight
beet [ɨ]
bit [ɪ]
bate [ɘ]
bet [ɪ̈]/[e]
bat [ɛ]/[a]
bot [ä]/[a]/[ɶ]
bout [ɐ](kinda rounded)
bought [ɑ]/[ɔ]
but [ʏ]/[ə]
burt [ɚ]
boat [ɔ]
boot

beaut
bute [y]
sew [ø]
boy[ɵɪ]/[oɪ̈]/[əɪ]
choir [ʊ̯̈ɛ]/[ʊ̯̈ɘ]
you [ʏ̯y]
yacht [ɪ̯a]
 

Offline panini

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Re: The way the GVS does not affect much of my speech...
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2018, 11:07:32 PM »
I'd vote for your first set of transcriptions, excluding the ɑ/ɔ thing that I lack, æʊ instead of aʊ (another dialect thing), and anythnig that has to do with specific conventions of transcribing (not really i:, but that is close enough and it is a standard spelling). Or: are you asking whether [ɛɪ] is more accurate than [e:] from a phonetic POV? I can't tell how you pronounce things.