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Offline orestsyn

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Predicative inversion
« on: May 16, 2019, 08:02:05 AM »
Hi! Please, help me! I need to find some predicative inversion examples in articles. Have you ever met such a stuff?
For ex.:
so beautiful were her eyes
wounded were smith and thompson

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Re: Predicative inversion
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2019, 11:53:26 AM »
Are you looking for scientific/theoretical research articles that discuss this topic? Or are you looking for examples in (e.g., newspaper) articles to study it yourself?

It doesn't seem too hard to find some examples in texts, but systematically/automatically identifying them in a corpus could be challenging if you don't want to read over every sentence yourself. In a tagged corpus you might be able to find some common patterns and identify many examples, although it might not be all examples because there's not much identifying these in the surface forms of the words.

As for theoretical articles, this has been discussed a lot although I don't have any specific papers in mind at the moment, but you'll find some if you just keep looking online. One relevant keyword is "agreement" although you'll need to combine that with others to narrow it down enough: just searching "agreement" + "inversion" on Google brings up some potentially relevant results, including https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse_copular_constructions -- see the bibliography there as a starting point, and then either look at the references within those articles, or probably better look them up on Google Scholar for a reverse citation research to see which more recent articles have cited them, and some of those will be specifically relevant to you.
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Re: Predicative inversion
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2019, 01:54:27 AM »
Are you looking for scientific/theoretical research articles that discuss this topic? Or are you looking for examples in (e.g., newspaper) articles to study it yourself?

It doesn't seem too hard to find some examples in texts, but systematically/automatically identifying them in a corpus could be challenging if you don't want to read over every sentence yourself. In a tagged corpus you might be able to find some common patterns and identify many examples, although it might not be all examples because there's not much identifying these in the surface forms of the words.

As for theoretical articles, this has been discussed a lot although I don't have any specific papers in mind at the moment, but you'll find some if you just keep looking online. One relevant keyword is "agreement" although you'll need to combine that with others to narrow it down enough: just searching "agreement" + "inversion" on Google brings up some potentially relevant results, including https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse_copular_constructions -- see the bibliography there as a starting point, and then either look at the references within those articles, or probably better look them up on Google Scholar for a reverse citation research to see which more recent articles have cited them, and some of those will be specifically relevant to you.
Could you help me to find at least one example, please? I can't do this :(

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Re: Predicative inversion
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2019, 10:40:19 AM »
You didn't answer my questions. Why are you doing this? What do you want to accomplish?

There are many examples given in the research on the topic (start with Wikipedia and then expand from there).
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Re: Predicative inversion
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2019, 09:19:26 PM »
You didn't answer my questions. Why are you doing this? What do you want to accomplish?

There are many examples given in the research on the topic (start with Wikipedia and then expand from there).
I'm from Ukraine and I'm working on my diploma right now. I need some examples from newspapers or articles where this kind of inversion is used explicitly. That's why I'm asking you :)

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Re: Predicative inversion
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2019, 12:27:25 AM »
"From newspapers"-- you could search a corpus of newspapers. Or you could just read newspapers to find them. I'd have to do the same thing to find examples for you.
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