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Offline errorcho

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Dose any body have a clue what lenguage is this?
« on: September 20, 2014, 01:50:56 PM »
Firs i want to apologize for my bad english and maybe this is not a wright partition of the forum, but it is very ergent. Please dose anybody know what lenguage is this and what is written ?

I attached it, thank you in furder.

P.S i found this in my grand parents old house under one of the beads. I have no idea what is this, this is not the full page but if you are able to read it i will uplold and another two pictures.


starcraft-fens.hit.bg/IMAG1047.jpg
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Re: Dose any body have a clue what lenguage is this?
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2014, 02:44:53 PM »
The image you posted wouldn't load, so I modified your post to make this page load faster (it was delayed while my computer tried to load the image).

Can you post the image another way? You can attach an image in your post if you'd like. We'll be glad to help you try to figure out what language it is.
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Re: Dose any body have a clue what lenguage is this?
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2014, 12:59:11 AM »
The orthography is Glagolitic which was used to write Old Church Slavonic.

The single letters on the left spell out "a b v g d e zh s", so it might be some kind of orthographic description/listing.
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Re: Dose any body have a clue what lenguage is this?
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2014, 09:55:32 AM »
Interesting. It would have taken me a while to figure that out. (Though I'm aware there was an alphabet before Cyrillic, I wouldn't have recognized it right away.)
There's plenty of information and a table for transcribing it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glagolitic_alphabet

So it may be very difficult to find someone who can actually translate that for you, but at least now you know what it is.

If you want to try to analyze it yourself, it looks like you'll have to do it by hand-- I don't see any information online about OCR (Optical Character Recognition) for image>text conversion (as exists for many modern scripts).


Freknu, is it possible that those letters are actually acting as line/verse numbers? I know that at least in Hebrew letters were assigned sequential values to identify text sections (something like roman numerals, but more transparent).
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Re: Dose any body have a clue what lenguage is this?
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2014, 03:11:19 AM »
Freknu, is it possible that those letters are actually acting as line/verse numbers? I know that at least in Hebrew letters were assigned sequential values to identify text sections (something like roman numerals, but more transparent).

Very possible! Being based on the greek alphabet that's one thing Cyrillic "inherited", and I don't think it's archaic in any way — should be in wide use even today.

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Re: Dose any body have a clue what lenguage is this?
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2014, 04:54:20 AM »
This is what I get:

ⰍⰙⰋⰕⰙ ⰆⰉⰂⰅⰅ ⰒⰙⰄ ⰒⰙⰍⰓⰉⰂⰀ ?Ⰰ ⰂⰔⰅⰂⰉⰞ?Ⰰ ⰛⰅ ⰒⰓⰅⰁⰉⰂⰀⰅ ⰒⰙⰄ ⰔⰡ?ⰍⰀⰕⰀ ?Ⰰ ⰂⰔⰅⰏⰙ??ⰛⰀ? (you need a glagolitic font to see this)

Two symbols I just cannot make out, and trying to write this in Cyrillic:

кѡітѡ живєє пѡд пѡкрива ?а всєвиш?а щє прєбиває пѡд сѣ?ката ?а всємѡ??ща?

And a more Russian spelling:

които живе под покрива (?а) (всевиш?а) ще пребивае под (ся?ката) (?а) (всемо??ща?)

And something that more resembles readable Russian:

кой живет под покрова ... кто пребывает под ...

And translating those segments:

one who lives under the cover ... who remains under ...

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Re: Dose any body have a clue what lenguage is this?
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2015, 02:27:44 AM »
Hi i am from Bulgaria ( where i found this writing ). And from your translation

" And a more Russian spelling:

които живе под покрива (?а) (всевиш?а) ще пребивае под (ся?ката) (?а) (всемо??ща?) "

It make sense. And if we replace some "?" with possible symbols it's look like that: || One who lives under the roof (of) (almighty / supreme) will remains under (shadow) (of) (almighty) ||

The first time "(almighty / supreme)" it ment somentig like god. The second one "(almighty)" is almolst the same but more like "all powerful".
                                                                                     

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Re: Dose any body have a clue what lenguage is this?
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2015, 07:19:46 AM »
Great that you managed to solve it! I even got to see what I was trying to translate :)