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Offline dublin

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Bran Vran
« on: September 06, 2014, 01:01:27 PM »
According to the latest archaeological data, Balkans and particularly the territory of today’s Serbia was a mayor Celtic (Gaulic) stronghold between the 4th and the 1st century bc.  Celts (Gauls) went from their Balkan stronghold to attack Greek lands and to eventually form Galatia in Asia Minor. What is very interesting is that the chieftains of these Balkan Celts (Gauls) from fourth and third century BC have names whose clear etymology is preserved in Serbian. Breton, Welsh, Irish, Lithuanian and Slavic languages are the only ones which share "vran" as a word for raven and crow, but only Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian and Polish languages use Vran, Vron as a word for black. Slavic languages are the only ones which have preserved the old word "Bran" meaning to defend, protect.
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Re: Bran Vran
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2014, 08:30:29 PM »
You obviously put a lot of work into these posts. The trouble is, you seem to want to be taken seriously by historical linguistics without doing any of the things that the methodologies of historical linguistics require.

There's a reason that historical linguists are primarily interested in paradigmatic chain shits. It's the thing that protects us from the very human tendency to see patterns in noise. Perhaps these associations aren't noise, but we won't know that until you put in the hard work to figure it out in a scientifically rigorous way.

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Re: Bran Vran
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2014, 01:00:14 AM »
In this case it's PIE. *wer- "to burn; black" (cognate with PG. *warmaz, En. warm) versus PIE. *bher- "to cut, carve; to cleave" (cognate with PG. *burōną, En. to bore).

Once again data mining for superficial patterns without any respect for actual research.